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Gun deaths in Canada continue to decline...

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 at 12:31

PUBLICATION:  The New Brunswick Telegraph Journal
DATE:  2005.06.29
COLUMN:  Canada


Gun deaths in Canada continue to decline; Statistics Canada report shows
death rates related to firearms lower over the past 25 years


Gun-related deaths are trending steadily downward in Canada, says
Statistics Canada, even as high-profile shooting tragedies continue to
raise public hackles.

A report released Tuesday - as police in London, Ont., continued to
investigate Monday's horrific murder of a mother and two children -
shows that death rates related to firearms fell by more than half for
men and by three quarters among women over the last 25 years.

Gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents all declined in relation
to the population size between 1979 and 2002, said the Statistics Canada
study based on death certificates.

But the report explicitly declines to link falling firearms mortality
with tougher gun-control laws brought in during the same period.

"You've got to remember there have been gun-control laws for most of
this last century, of one sort or another," author Kathryn Wilkins said
in an interview.

The data she studied simply can't differentiate between any number of
cause-and-effect possibilities, whether they be fewer sports hunters,
urbanization, an aging populace or tougher gun registration and storage

Ms. Wilkins noted that the 1989 Montreal massacre, in which 14 young
women were gunned down, coincided with a sharp, steady decline in gun
deaths in Canada.

"Who's to say that tragedies like that don't have some influence, as
well?" said the researcher - perhaps by raising public awareness of
firearms storage issues, for example.

Already this year, two high-profile shootings have reignited the debate
over Canada's gun- control system.

A gunman in Mayerthorpe, Alta., killed four RCMP officers in March
before taking his own life with a high-powered assault rifle. And early
Monday morning in London, a man is believed to have killed a woman, two
of her three children and wounded two officers before dying himself,
possibly from return police fire.

Earlier this month, Toronto police chief Bill Blair decried a
"proliferation of illegal handguns in the hands of gangsters" on the
city's streets.

There is evidence that the nature of gun violence is changing in Canada,
noted Ms. Wilkins. Recent StatsCan studies suggest two thirds of gun
deaths now result from handguns, up from about half during the 1990s.

But if Toronto has a particular problem, Ms. Wilkins' research didn't
show it. From 2000 to 2002 in Canada's four largest cities - Calgary,
Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver - Montreal was the only one with
significantly higher gun deaths: 2.2 per 100,000 people compared with
Toronto's 1.3.

The trend nationally belies public concern about gun violence.

Some 767 males and 49 females died from gun injuries in 2002, said
Statistics Canada.

Among males, that was a rate of 4.9 deaths for every 100,000 population,
down from 10.6 in 1979. For females the rate fell to 0.3 from 1.2 deaths
for every 100,000 Canadians.

"Overall, the stats are very, very favourable and there's no question
the (incidence) reporting is better than ever in the past," said Emile
Therien of the Canada Safety Council.

The figures are even more dramatic when compared with those in the
United States. An American man in 2000 was more than three times as
likely to die from a gunshot as his Canadian counterpart. American women
died seven times more often than Canadian women from gunshot wounds.

Suicides involving firearms fell from five deaths per 100,000 to two in
the period from the mid-1980s to 2002, added StatsCan.

And while other means of suicide became more common, the overall suicide
rate also declined from 14 deaths per 100,000 to 12 during the same
period - suggesting a correlation.

Ms. Wilkins said the best news in her report may be the falling
incidence of young people killed in gun accidents.

In 1979, the rate of deaths related to firearms was highest among young
people aged 15 to 24. Those age differences have largely disappeared.

In 2002, just six people under age 25 died in gun accidents.

"That's a very good news story. It probably does reflect safety and
storage (improvements)," said Ms. Wilkins.

Therien doesn't hesitate to attribute the change to tighter gun
legislation, specifically the contentious, over-budget long gun registry
of 1995 that critics love to hate.

"Forget the vocal minority that's against it," said the longtime
president of the Canada Safety Council.

"Public health officials, safety people and the police community . . .
they were all in favour of this legislation. It goes on and on. What
else do you want? It's not perfect, but it's good."

Comments by Bruce Cheadle from Canada - (Report Post - RP)
Posted on: Friday, July 11, 2008 at 10:50
Hi folks: I've been stumbling upon this entry for a couple of years during Internet searches and finally have a slow moment to address it. I'm the 'doof' who wrote the original article, based on the StatsCan release. The writer above never did drop me a line to educate me a wee bit. What I would have responded was that this particular StatsCan study, and indeed the story I wrote about, provide LUFA and others who oppose the gun registry with a powerful statistical argument. StatsCan says that bringing in tougher laws/registries/etc did nothing to change the trajectory of gun deaths, which have been trending solidly downwards for years. Doesn't such a study -- and the news reporting of it -- support your contention that the gun registry is an unnecessary waste of taxpayers' money?? Instead, the reader focuses on a throw-away line at the bottom of the story from Emile Therien that he supports gun control measures, regardless of the data suggesting they've had no discernable impact. So who exactly is the doof here?
Cheers, Bruce Cheadle, Canadian Press, Ottawa

Comments by Bayonet from Other - (Report Post - RP)
Posted on: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 at 17:52
what a bunch of BS.This Emile therien is typical of a liberal parrot.I would like to remind Emile? that the vocal minority is about 70 to 80 percent in favour of ditching the usless regisrty this according to various liberal friendly poll services at any given time.the public health officials,and the police and safety people(who are they)? is again misleading.A few mis guided doctors and nurses (mostly of the far left sect) support this travesty.Most doctors would rather have had the 2 billion and counting spent on shortening waiting lists and buying much needed new technologies like MRI,s or Catscans.the only cops who support this are of course the rubber spined and "I will support anything you do as long as we get more money" the chiefs of police assoction,who are little more than performing monkeys with a hat out for extra money.the majority of beat cops both federaly and provincialy see this as a waste.the incident in Marythorpe pretty much buried what tiny support the law had from the rank and file.Which finally bring me to safety people who are?.DO fireman really care about the gun registry,do the soldiers in are patheticaly underfunded armed forces? does the under paid security gaurds in our malls and at our aiports really care? I would think they would care more about making 8 bucks an hour. Mr.Therien says it is not perfect but it is good,I guess one has to stoop to baldfacing lying to justify his overpaid under worked positon.MS Wilkins research while not linking the drop in crime to firearms laws(a clear contradiction to our man Emile) is again muddied and unclear-she simply guesses without giving any proof that the safe storage laws are working-BS.this whole paper is a bunch of crap because these snivel servants cannot agree on why gun crimes have fallen.

Comments by Jim from Canada - (Report Post - RP)
Posted on: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 at 14:38
Ya no kidding Phantom like any of us expected anything different from the Ministry of Propaganda
of our beloved motherland KAnuckistan.Notice how the safe storage of firearms justifies the spending of 2 billion dollars and our lost of freedoms by these Pravda wantabes.These f*ckwads would feel right at home in Kim I Sungs North Korea ....

Comments by The Phantom from Ontario - (Report Post - RP)
Posted on: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 at 14:08
And here we see the MSM propaganda generated from the faulty study we just looked at in the last post. This is just like f_cking clockwork, isn't it?
This doof Bruce Cheadle from the Canadian Press either hasn't read the paper, or if he did he doesn't understand what he's read. He's just regurgitated the findings like a parrot, without questioning the methods or assumptions of the paper. He isn't competent to winkle out the meaning of the thing, and probably there's nobody in his whole office who is either.
And frankly, it isn't surprising! He's SUPPOSED to be able to trust Stats Can to produce accurate and unbiased work. That they don't is a huge horrendous friggin' scandal, making Adscam look like a bit of petty shoplifting in my estimation. That quote fromt the Canada Safety Council worm is just icing on the cake, making it ever so clear that this disinformation is government policy from top to bottom.
I think I'll drop Brucie a line and see if I can educate him a wee bit. This paper is such clumsy crapola even an MSM journo should be able to get it. Possibly it will irritate hgim that he's being played like a friggin' Stradivarius.

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